hagel, i would arlg is the most pro iranian engagement national security cabinet since the 1979 revolution. so these guys seriously do want to do a deal and i think if ayatollah khamenei generally wants to try to build confidence with the united states this is the best administration to do that. i think the dilemma khamenei has is since 24 years, since 1989, he hasn't left the country since 1989. he sought to preserve the status quo by avoiding transformative decisions. and he's now put himself increasingly with the back against the wall facing unprecedented international pressure, sanctions, et cetera. whereby if he wants to reduce this pressure. either he needs to do a nuclear deal, to reduce the pressure or go for a nuclear weapon. the so-called pakistan option. whereby if they get a bomb. they believe that the outside world will be forced to deal with them. but these are both transformative options. and he, both transformative choices for him. i think he's put himself in a very uncomfortable position. >> and he's a conservative guy by nature? >> by nature. you're a revolutionary until